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Orodreth- 10-07-2005
Like Jyra mentioned, I suggested that it's best to send the tabard only after one week of membership, let's call this an initiation-week, after a week our new recruits would become genuine members of the guild, and since a tabard also represents our guild, it shows they're indeed members of Acceptance. This could perhaps be a first rank-up?

Jay- 10-08-2005
QUOTE (Orodreth @ Oct 8 2005, 02:32 AM)
This could perhaps be a first rank-up?

Might be a good idea, would it be applicable to say you need a tabard to get higher than a certain rank?

DezSP- 10-10-2005
Hmm, I just bought mine :P

Shruikan- 10-10-2005
Ok i have sat and thought about it and so far have come up with the following template....it needs some work and i want some better names for it but here goes:
(in the form {rank name} - {requirements}

Initiate - requires to be asked to join
should be a friendly, helpful player

Member - requires a tabard, (given after 1 week of consistent play)

(Better Member) - needs to donate something to the bank
be on consistently for a further 2 weeks

Scout - needs to have invited at least 2 decent members to the guild
donated a green item to the bank

Officer - needs to be above level 30,
must be a member of the forums
needs to perform an act of selfless good will within the guild

Veteran - needs to be above level 40
perform good service to the guild
must have aided someone of a much lower level with a quest that they got nothing from (no loot or exp)

Leader - have to show consistent, loyal and good service to the guild,
must be (or have characters of) a high level {30+?},
must be a member of the forums

N.B. all of the requirements are retrospective (i.e. you must have met the requirements for the ranks prior to the the one you want to be to become it e.g. you must be invited, have a tabard, been online for 1 week + 2 weeks, donated something to the bank, donated something green to the bank and invited 2 decent members to the guild to become a Scout.)

Any comments/suggestions will we welcomed, along with new names (PLEASE!!!!!!) and any other requirements for ranks that are appropriate. I think the requirements should be tighter, but i cant think at the moment heh - especially for the Leader rank....

Jay- 10-10-2005
OK well first the rank system seems good, not too many ranks but enough to seperate members and they all have clear objectives to get to the next rank smile.gif
As for names, I'm useless at naming things (Hence the name Bob for my pet tongue.gif) I doubt i'd be able to name my own child tbh... :|

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Member - requires a tabard, (given after 1 week of consistent play)

We should also provide straight jackets if they've been with us for that long.... we should have given one to Modi really... shame he was out guinea pig really tongue.gif (sorry Modi, only joking)

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Scout - needs to have invited at least 2 decent members to the guild
donated a green item to the bank

I think we need to tell people what counts as decent. e.g. someone whos on often and has got to rank 3 (or a rank of your choice)

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Veteran - needs to be above level 40
perform good service to the guild
must have aided someone of a much lower level with a quest that they got nothing from (no loot or exp)

I think here the person needs to prove them helping is not just a one off situation (i.e they help someone quickly and hope to get the promotion)

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Leader - have to show consistent, loyal and good service to the guild,
must be (or have characters of) a high level {30+?},
must be a member of the forums

I think the level thing here needs to be higher, to me a high level is 40+ maybe 45+. They must be able to show they can make good decisions that will benefit the guild for everyone not just a few members. And most importantly they must be an active member of the forums, meaning they make topics, post to replys, dont spam (eg. "Ditto" to everything).... i wanted to add something else but i've forgotten what i was going to say now >_<

Thats my thoughts at least, but otherwise it looks good smile.gif good going Carn.
/cheer "By the light of the moon!"

Edit: Maybe for leader they need a horde alt with us too, but i'm not so sure about that requirment.

Shruikan- 10-11-2005
The horde alt requirement could be used, but we will have to wait for that guild to get going first before we can insist on it.

I also think that we should have a higher level restriction on the Leader rank, but we have to remember that levels do not mean everything....you could have a level 60 character but still be rubbish at operating a guild.

Jay- 10-11-2005
Exactly, look at most of the alliance side, they can't even lead a PvP raid how would they do with a guild? :|
At the moment i like it being just me and koh, you and anyone else who leads (havent checked for a while :S) we have no real problems, i think to be a leader you really have to show you could do it, otherwise we could unsettle things, but for now Jay is happy ^^

Shruikan- 10-12-2005
OK im going to try and do a 'final draft' tonight and then it will be a case of choosing names for the ranks - i could really do with some input from more than just Jay here though...

I think that the people will have roughly the same rank as they have now, only the equivalent in the new ranks...i will post the 'powers' that the members can have with the final draft later on and they can be decided

Jay- 10-12-2005
Great i look forward to it smile.gif i'll post more about this when i get home, i have to go to business studies now sad.gif

Jyra- 10-12-2005
I'm useless at these things, but going through an online list of various ranks, what about medieval ranks such as Claviger, Catchpole, Greave, Bailiff, Shreiff/Shrieve etc. followed myabe by Guildsman and Guild Master.

To be honest, I have no idea. Work is not exactly helpfull in thinking of such things dry.gif

Jay- 10-12-2005
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i could really do with some input from more than just Jay here though...

Sorry, i'm often bored at college and come here too much, the other problems is everyone we tell to come here... well they never really do =\

Hmm as for names i googled "Military ranks" to give me some insipiration, it didnt work. anyway this is what i thought of so far:

*lowest ranks starts here*

Apprentice

Sergeant

Sergeant Major

Deputy

Deputy-Commander

Warhorse

High chief

*Highest rank at this end here*

Guildmaster - Guild commander, guild governor, guild patriarch (my fav of the ones i got so far), The big cheese (lol just for fun that one was tongue.gif)

Ok so i know some of them are pretty sucky but i can relook them up if you like, took me ages to think them up, i used a como of real military ranks and thesaurus.com hope its of some use to you.

(Also i stickied this as even people who haven't signed up might want to read, its easier like this for them to find imo, you may unsticky it if you like tongue.gif)

DezSP- 10-12-2005
You wouldn't really have apprentices in the army, and a warhorse you would ride on top of, not give a position of power.

Jay- 10-13-2005
We're not the army though, those are just possible ranks :| *bangs head on desk, repeatidly* if you can do better your more then welcome to try, i'm not the best at this sort of thing, then again i'm not the best at many things... *contemplates what i am good at*
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I came to the conclusion of nothing =\

Orodreth- 10-13-2005
This idea suddenly haunted my mind last night while catching up with the new posts here: how about using the names of Chess or Shogi pieces for ranks? I came to this idea because Chess, Shogi and Go are 3 games which where used in the old days to solve differences between 2 ppl. I know for sure that the game Go was used by high-ranked ppl to avoid a possible war, since the game kind of represent a war and its tactics. The game Shogi, which is translated to General's Game btw, was used for this too, and since Chess and Shogi are very much alike, and this is World of WARcraft, I came to this idea smile.gif

The names of the pieces used in chess are: Pawn, Knight, Bishop, Rook, Queen and King

The names of Shogi-pieces could be used too, they kind of resemble the names though, and from what I read some pieces can even be promoted too (never played Shogi myself, yet tongue.gif) Click here for an explaination on Shogi.

Names: Pawn, Rook, Bishop, Lance, Knight, Silver General, Gold General, King
But since Rook and Bishop can get promoted to another (not existing yet) piece, and the alternative to Pawn is Soldier (who would like to be a pawn anyway wink.gif), perhaps the names could be like this:
Soldier, Lance, Knight, Dragon Horse, Dragon King, Silver General, Gold General, King
(this is my interpretation of the order, I'm not sure though, since I haven't read the whole article yet at the moment of writing)
But this could mean that we don't have an initiate-rank, Dragon Horse does sound a bit too much like an animal, and Dragon King kind of sounds like a higher ranking as king imo, so, I further develop my idea in to:

Apprentice (sry for 'borrowing' ;p)
Soldier (Edit, since I forgot this one, could be left out anyway smile.gif)
Lance
Knight
Silver General
Gold General
King

I could have used the Japanese names for the pieces, but since few ppl understand Japanese a bit in our guild, this could get confusing for some, so English names do sound a bit better imho.

This has become a wierd post I guess since I developed my idea further while writing, hope you didn't mind laugh.gif

Jay- 10-14-2005
I like this idea very much, i also like your final order

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Apprentice (sry for 'borrowing' ;p)
Soldier (Edit, since I forgot this one, could be left out anyway smile.gif)
Lance
Knight
Silver General
Gold General
King

smile.gif I think thats a really good set of names, and dont worry about 'borrowing' apprentice lol it's not the end of the world

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